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could be made to the Council. Zisla stated applicants should have the right of appeal. The Planning Commission is an advisory Commission. Zisla said he would recommend that requests come to the Planning Commission. Schopf asked about the curb in relation to the right-of-way. Teague answered the property line from the curb is supposed to be 14 feet, if the street is placed directly in the middle of the right-of-way. That is not always the case. We could include that in the ordinance amendment as a condition. Zisla stated that Staff should check with the City Attorney because many standards may be tied to the property line. Schopf said that setbacks could be 30 feet from the property line no matter what the right-of-way is. Zisla stated the situation would be moot because the curb changes from block to block, and it would change overtime with street projects. It is an excellent point to raise, because when someone looks at a street ever looks at the property line, they look at the street line. That is so much a part of the ordinance that Commission cannot take it out in the amendment and keep it for other parts of the Zoning Ordinance. Schiferl said he was concerned about the aesthetics issue. Aesthetics is a matter of personal perception. O’Brien stated aesthetics is a difficult area to regulate. Zisla asked if O’Brien objected to Item #4. O’Brien said he thought that the language in Item #4 was appropriate, except as it refers to color. Zisla stated that historically the Planning Commission has avoided formal rules for aesthetics. What the Commission wants to say is that an addition should be compatible with the house. Zisla stated the Commission does not need to act on the Staff recommendation formally. Staff would like some sense of what the Commission will want. The Commission would like to pursue Item #2 and come back with some changes. Items #1 and #3 should be removed. Off-Street Parking Requirements for Apartments Teague reviewed the memo relating to off-street parking for apartments. Zisla asked O’Brien about underground parking as a planning issue. O’Brien answered that putting parking underground is more expensive because construction must be concrete or masonry construction, not wood-framed. If an applicant is building an upscale building, underground parking is desirable. Zisla said Commissioner Livingston requested this item. If Livingston so desires, the Commission can talk about it at the November meeting. Report on Council Action Larson said the Council approved the Tussing entryway. The Council approved the Foster subdivision, subject to review and approval of a grading plan by the City Engineer. Announcements and Updates - None Adjourn The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.. _______________________________________ Cary Teague, City Planner I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1999\10-19-99.WPD 3