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Baker stated that the density is far too high for the site. Going to an R-1 with 22 units would be a more <br />acceptable density. Baker said an R-3 zoning would be even worse than an R-2, which is unacceptable. The <br />use of a PRD seems good, but the zoning class is the issue. <br /> <br />Knuth commented that the subject proposal is for two units less per acre than the Rottlund development. <br />Mattila said the Rottlund development is in the B-4 District, which is more flexible than other districts, but <br />the Rottlund development does adhere to the R-3B District standards. <br /> <br />Baker asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak. <br /> <br />Paul Vik, 980 3rd Street NW, stated there are hundred-year-old oaks on the site. It’s a beautiful wild area. <br />Vik said he was concerned about the elevation of the lot. Vik said he was concerned about the drainage from <br />the lot onto his lot. <br /> <br />Norm Peterson, 1101 3rd Street NW, said he was concerned about increased traffic from the 32 townhouse <br />units. To get onto Old Highway 8, these cars will go through 3rd Terrace or the neighborhoods with young <br />children. Has a traffic study been done? <br /> <br />Mike Gustafson, 960 3rd Street NW, stated the Silver Oak people invited the neighbors to a meeting. The <br />units were good units. The traffic is the number one concern. There are children who play in the street in the <br />area. The county would have to install a stop light Old Highway 8. The elevation is another concern. <br />Gustafson said he does get water in his backyard in the spring and does not want any more water. Gustafson <br />commented he would miss the woods. <br /> <br />Jake Cadwallader, of Silver Oak, stated he would like to answer the concerns about the density and use of the <br />property. In answer to the question about whether the R-2 zoning with the PRD overlay might be a better <br />option, there would be approximately 37 units on the site. Using the R-3B District or the standard townhouse <br />zoning, this site would hold between 42 and 44 units. Cadwallader said he was proposing 32 units. At this <br />point, then, the density is lower than what we’ve seen in other projects. Compared with the last PUD <br />developed in New Brighton, our project would have a lower density. The Harstad development included 41 <br />single family homes, 14 doubles and 72 townhouse units. The density of that development is 7.3. Our density <br />would be 7.1 units per acre. <br /> <br />Cadwallader stated the problem the Planning Commission seems to feel that the site looks too confined. The <br />problem is that our units are one-story units with a full basement and a two-car attached garage. The footprint <br />of our units is larger than other townhouse developments. Where we will have four units, a development like <br />the Rottlund townhouses has eight units. Therefore, the question is not density as much as the number of <br />units. Rottlund and Harstad have mostly one car garages. Silver Oak is looking for a different market <br />segment. We invited the neighbors within 300 feet of the site to look at what we’re building. At that meeting, <br />the neighbors expressed concern about two story townhomes. We have looked at moving the buildings farther <br />to the west to leave as many trees as possible. The City Engineer says the problem is a city sewer line that <br />runs right through the project. It may not be possible to move this sewer line. <br /> <br />Cadwallader said, in answer to the question about the driveway elevations, we will maintain the perimeter of <br />the project at the current elevation. We would raise the driveway side of the unit making a split entry type <br />appearance on one side. <br /> <br />O’Brien said his question was about the actual slope of the driveway. Cadwallader answered the slope of the <br />driveways will be minimal. They will be almost flat. Cadwallader pointed out the problem with the sewer line <br />on the site plan and explained the planning difficulties. <br /> <br /> <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1997\03-18-97.WPD <br />3 <br /> <br />
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