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Diem said he would comment on Garner’s concern the congregation could not support the church. All the buildings built by the New Apostolic Church are financed with cash. There are no mortgages on any of their buildings in the world. Nancy Kessler, 1001 2nd Street NW, said she was concerned about the parking lot. Kessler said she understood there were 100 families in the congregation. Now it seems there are 125 families. Diem responded there were 125 people and the average attendance is forty people. Kessler said she was concerned 40 people could support a church. Baker said that question was not part of the land use issue. Kessler said her biggest concern was the parking. Diem showed Kessler the 10th Avenue NW area on the plan. Diem said that there was a sanitary sewer line on the property with an easement. The easement says nothing can be built over the easement. That limits the size of the building that could build on that lot. The Rice Creek Watershed District requires the 100-foot flood plain be dealt with. The plain is measured from the center of the creek. The amount of usable property is small. Therefore, even if the lot were split and sold, there would be no more traffic than there is now. Kessler said she was concerned that the dead end not be opened and that no traffic could come in through 2nd Street. What happens if the church lot overflows? There is no place to park on 2nd Street. Would they walk down the dead end into the property? Kessler stated it is an area of small, single family homes and there are many children. Kessler stated increased traffic would be a concern. Baker pointed out that the proposed parking is adequate and exceeds the requirements. Kessler asked if the congregation lived in New Brighton. Diem responded the congregation lives in New Brighton and adjoining areas. Garner said they were really concerned about the parking and traffic. Off-street parking is a real concern. Baker stated that, if someone developed this site using an R-2 zoning, there would be more parking and traffic than a church would generate. This is zoned R-2, so that would be a real possibility. A developer could develop the lot under the R-2 zoning without holding a public hearing. Bruce Bates, 961 2nd Street NW, said he had three concerns. Parking is number one. Bates said he had heard some guest congregations would be coming to the area. Bates said he worked for the City of White Bear Lake where he manages the Sports Center and is familiar with parking lots. However, parking always exceeds what is expected. Bates said he was concerned about waking up Sunday morning and finding people parking in front of his house. Bates said his neighborhood was extremely quiet except for the Bell Pole Company. We have to listen to the truck noise until 10:00 p.m. Bates said he was concerned about noise, weddings, bells tolling, and people being outside the church. He was also concerned about lighting. Bates said he had a large oak tree in his backyard that has to be taken down. Therefore, the entire backyard would be opened up to the church. Bates stated he was concerned about the landscaping. Bates said he hoped the City Forester would be contacted. Bates said those were his concerns. He hopes they are addressed so the neighbors do not have to come back to the City and complain about noise and light. A luminosity test is extremely important. P.5A-0N.M Motion by Baker, seconded by Schiferl, TO CLOSE THE UBLIC HEARING YES AYS OTION C. ARRIED Baker stated, concerning the parking, this site has adequate parking. The parking must meet the requirement of the Code and this site meets those requirements. Kessler said she was more concerned about the people coming to the church. Where are they going to come from? Old Hwy 8? There is a four-way stop there and it is really busy. I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1997\10-21-97.WPD 13