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Baker asked why Clark and Barr were not recommending a larger pipe. Harrison responded a larger pipe <br />would not solve the problem. The storm sewers have been properly designed, but the grading between the <br />existing Brightondale building and the houses does not carry the water away. The water meanders because the <br />drainage way is poorly defined. The proposed plan shows a defined swale where the water would accumulate <br />going through the corner and across the park. Baker asked if all the water from the front parking lot at <br />Brightondale goes into a pipe. Harrison responded the water goes into the pipe in a ten-year event. Most cities <br />use the ten-year standard when designing storm sewers, although some cities use a five-year standard. The <br />existing pipe is sized properly, but the current grading does not allow the water to flow into the storm sewer. <br /> <br />Baker stated, under the proposed plan, all the water would still not go into the pipe. Baker asked Harrison if <br />the problem with the existing pond its size or its maintenance. Harrison stated the storm sewer is not perfectly <br />clean. Sediment in the pipe reduces its capacity. The sediment needs to be cleaned out. Harrison said that the <br />problem with the existing pond is the berm on the downstream side. The berm is high and the water cannot <br />flow. <br /> <br />Baker asked Chandler if it were her opinion that the problem with the pond is not a maintenance problem. <br />Chandler said that, when she did the modeling for the ponding area, the flood levels did not seem too high. <br />However, there were extreme rains in July, and the pond would have to fill up to quite a depth before it would <br />overflow. Chandler said it could be a maintenance issue if the pipe is clogged. The modeling would not reflect <br />the clogged pipe. Chandler said, before Harrison talked about the clogged pipe, she thought the issue was the <br />runoff from the Brightondale property going to the neighbors’ property. <br /> <br />Gould said he would like to talk about the runoff on the western side of Brightondale. Gould asked Harrison <br />if the primary cause of water problems on the neighbors’ property has been the runoff from the Brightondale <br />building and the parking lot off Rice Creek Road. Harrison responded affirmatively. Gould stated Harrison is <br />proposing regrading the Brightondale property and creating a swale to carry the water back to the manhole <br />that would carry the water to the park. Harrison said that was correct. Gould said the cause of the current <br />drainage problem is the grading of Brightondale. Gould said regrading the Brightondale property and creating <br />the swale on the Brightondale property would carry off most of the stormwater. Gould said G & P would <br />continue to work on any problems caused by water draining onto the property of the two homes to the west. <br />Gould said he was committed to seeing the stormwater stays on the Brightondale property. <br /> <br />Gould said the underground connection between the two buildings is very important for the quality of life of <br />the residents. The number of people more than sixty-five years of age would double by 2000. By 2020, over <br />25% of the population will be over sixty-five. Therefore, senior housing will be in great demand and we hope <br />Brightondale will be able to meet this demand. <br /> <br />Zisla stated he understood the function of the Alzheimer’s wing and the assisted living housing, but how does <br />coop housing fit a particular niche in the community. Gould stated the resident would own the senior coop <br />units. The assisted living portion of Brightondale is rental units. The coop would have congregate facilities <br />such as congregate dining and activity spaces. Zisla asked if coop housing is not just a transition from single <br />family homes. Gould responded it was a transition from single family living, but with health care and other <br />services. However, the coop residents would be paying less than they would at an independent congregate <br />facility and for much the same service. Zisla asked if the proposal has components that make it distinctly a <br />senior housing facility as opposed to housing that would fit the needs of the general population. Gould <br />responded this is a product for seniors, not just a coop housing project. Gould said the coop was unique <br />because it is more affordable than rental congregate facility and would provide much the same services. <br />Gould said the monthly costs of an independent facility would be $1,000 to $1,100 per month. The monthly <br />costs of the coop would be $600 or $700. <br /> <br /> <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1997\10-21-97.WPD <br />4 <br /> <br />
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