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Schiferl said he would like to deal with the noise issue. He was referring to a comment made earlier in the <br />evening by an unnamed person in the audience. Schiferl said he would like to make it clear his comments on <br />noise were not meant as a scare tactic. Schiferl stated he talked to three people, including members of his <br />family, about first hand knowledge of Alzheimer’s patients. All three of them mentioned the noise issue. <br />Schiferl said he did not know how prevalent it is and only brought it up as a legitimate issue. There were <br />some answers tonight on the issue that clarified the issue. Regarding the comment made by Commissioner <br />Zisla whether noise was a legitimate land use issue, Schiferl said he felt noise is inherent in all kinds of land <br />use issues, whether directly or indirectly. For example, traffic can be a noise issue. Schiferl said he would not <br />pursue the issue further in this proceeding, but he wanted to clarify his thinking on the issue for the record. <br /> <br />Baker said he agreed with Knuth’s comments and we do have to be concerned about quality of life of the <br />residents. The Golden Pond application had similar problems when it came before the Planning Commission. <br />It was originally proposed to leave the existing a six-plex on the site and the Planning Commission did not <br />think it was a good use of the site. That would have blocked the view of Golden Pond from the street. The <br />Planning Commission made it a condition of approval that the apartment building be removed. The City <br />Council agreed and the building was removed. Golden Pond is a much better development because of that <br />condition. Brightondale is a similar case. Aesthetics aside, Baker said he had a real concern about parking. <br />The existing Brightondale facility did not have enough parking to meet code and is the reason for the shared <br />parking agreement with the Rice Creek Shopping Center. Eliminating the agreement and adding twenty more <br />units to Brightondale will cause a parking problem. Baker said his other concern was that the Planning <br />Commission does not have a complete set of plans to consider. The Planning Commission cannot do their <br />work when it has incomplete information. The site plan should show parking and fire lanes instead of the <br />developer giving us verbal information. <br /> <br />Schiferl said he would like to make it clear that, should the Commission decide to deny approval because of <br />concerns with the Alzheimer’s wing, that we make it clear that the coop is a separate issue. The coop is a <br />viable proposal, but the details should be considered more fully. <br /> <br />Zisla stated that the developer made an effort to respond to the setback and the roof line issues. Zisla said he <br />felt those were the core issues. <br /> <br />Schiferl said he would vote against approval based on consideration of land use issues not based on emotion. <br /> <br />Gould said he would like to reply to Commissioner Schiferl’s comments that he could not support the <br />Alzheimer’s wing but could support the senior coop. Gould said he would welcome that recommendation and <br />the proposals could be separated. <br /> <br />Baker stated he thought the senior coop proposal had merit, but he still wanted to see a complete site plan. <br /> <br />Livingston said he would like to take another look at the coop proposal and to vote on that separately. The <br />Commission does not have enough information on the coop proposal to vote on the matter this evening. <br />Livingston suggested the developer bring the coop proposal back as a separate issue. <br /> <br />Baker asked for a motion on the proposal. <br /> <br />Zisla said he had a question on procedure. If the Commission denies the staff recommendation, does that <br />create a procedure problem for consideration of the coop issue. Will that delay the process? Mattila answered <br />the current application is for both the Alzheimer’s facility and the senior coop facility. We would have to <br />make a recommendation to the City Council on the current proposal. Unless the developer withdraws the <br />application, the City Council must consider it. Zisla asked if recommending denial of the Alzheimer’s wing <br />was possible. Also, would it be possible to recommend approval of the senior coop, subject to the concerns of <br /> <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1998\01-20-98.WPD <br />13 <br /> <br />