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<br />Zisla asked Montague what she thought the City should do about the trees. Montague suggested the property <br />be divided into fewer lots. Zisla asked for a specific statement about the number of lots and a specific <br />statement about the trees, other than we all like to look at the trees on that lot. <br /> <br />Benahrio said it should be a park, but that is not what the City has planned. The City has invested heavily in <br />this asset over the years. Every tree should be saved. Whoever develops the site should know this is a special <br />place. The number of lots should be reduced. Any decision is irreversible. We would like to work together to <br />understand the impact of developing the site, how to develop it, or if the property should be developed. <br /> <br />Zisla said the applicant had a timeline decision to make. The argument is this is a community resource. Are <br />the trees on the properties of the present residents also a commission resource? Benahrio said the City <br />Forester should be included in this conversation. Zisla asked if anyone in this room thought they should go <br />through this process when they want to cut down a tree on their property. Benahrio said no, this development <br />is unique. This is probably an old growth forest and this is the last piece of property that has those <br />characteristics. <br /> <br />Zisla said this site was not a community asset. The City has no mechanism, except the cooperation of the <br />developer, to preserve trees. The people who spoke tonight seem to be asking for a tree plan. There has been <br />wonderful rhetoric and wonderful thoughts expressed this evening. However, the Planning Commission must <br />make a decision under the rules that are currently in place. <br /> <br />Livingston said, speaking as a real estate appraiser, it is to the developer’s advantage to preserve as many <br />trees as possible. The City should ask for a plan showing the trees and the location of the proposed houses. <br />That has already been considered. Livingston stated Lot 9 shows 23,000 square feet and could really hold two <br />houses. Lot 8 has 36,000 square feet; Lot 7 has 30,000 square feet; Lot 6 has 32,000 square feet; Lot 5 has <br />16,000 square feet; Lot 4 has 17,000 square feet; Lots 1, 2 and 3 have between 11,000 and 12,000 square <br />feet. By using the Comprehensive Plan, more than the nine houses requested could be put on the site. A <br />developer could come to the City asking to treat a site as a PRD and put fifty or more townhouses on the site. <br />We must consider all the possibilities. <br /> <br />Donovan asked the Planning Commission to consider putting the entrance to the development on Silver Lake <br />Road. <br /> <br />John Rengo, the developer’s surveyor, said he would represent Mr. Beach this evening. The entrance on <br />Silver Lake Road has been considered. This would be a bad place for the entrance because of the dip coming <br />down from the north. Silver Lake Road is a Ramsey County road and they require entrances to be a specified <br />number of feet from other intersections. The entrance onto 23rd is the most likely entrance because there is a <br />street that is already platted. The utilities are there and stubbed. If the intersection were on Silver Lake Road, <br />the utilities would be coming from 23rd Avenue in any case. <br /> <br />Rengo said some trees would have to be cut. There was an issue about the depth of the sewer raised. Rengo <br />said he recalled that Beach’s engineer said the sewer was about 20 feet deep and the sewer would not be that <br />deep coming from the project. They would construct a drop. <br /> <br />Larry Beach, the developer, said he wanted to preserve as many trees as possible. Beach said he appreciated <br />trees. We narrowed the proposed street so the front yards would be deeper to accommodate more plantings. <br />Beach said he wanted to plant as many trees as possible. Beach said he understood Ron Meilahn’s concern <br />about the view from the back of his house. If we can, we will shift the house behind Meilahn to the west as far <br />as possible. Beach said he would plant evergreens on the site. Beach said his project on Silver Lake Road <br />shows his concern for a good-looking development. <br /> <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1998\06-16-98.WPD <br />5 <br /> <br />
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