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was no sufficient vibration to cause damage. Schiferl said he was more concerned about reducing the vibration problem and testing for the problem. Brad Anderson, stated he was the design engineer of the project for the City of Minneapolis. Anderson stated that, as the fill height of the reservoir is increased in Phase 2, the location of the equipment relative to the street or adjacent ground level will be separated more and more. In that process, the driving energy will be dissipated and will not travel into the ground as readily as it does at grade. When it comes to compaction of the soils, static methods could be used to reduce the dynamic forces being impacted into the soils. That would reduce vibration considerably. The relation of vibration and trucking can only be tracked by seismic monitoring. When traffic is concentrated, there would be a perception of vibration. Schiferl stated concerns have been raised that, if the proposal is approved, that the soil would be moved twice creating more truck traffic. Schiferl asked if the soil would be compacted. Anderson answered that the soils placed in the barrow pit would be free dumped and leveled to the allowable maximum height. Therefore, the soil would be in a loose condition. The soil would have to be loaded by backhoe into trucks and transported to the project for placement and compaction. Schiferl asked if there was any way to cause less dust, less noise, and less vibration during the dumping function. Anderson responded, from a placement point of view, the soils could be placed in the eastern position closest to the property line building a berm there. Then, there would be less exposed surface. Dust conditions would have to be monitored. Thomas commented that trucks had round wheels and caterpillars have tracks. When soils are dumped, cats push the soil into a pile and then must come back. The equipment used to do the barrow pit is huge earthmoving equipment. The studies that may have been done on trucks going down the street cannot be equated to what is happening behind Wexford. Kramer said they monitored heavy equipment used in deep excavation in digging sewers for the City of Minneapolis. Thomas said Anderson stated vibration depended upon the type of soil. New Brighton clay vibrates and carries a long way. Hartman stated the bulldozers and the backhoes are causing vibration. If soils are going to be brought to the barrow pit, bulldozers will push the soils around. When the soils are dug up, the backhoes will be brought in affecting the Wexford and Columbia Heights residents. The bulldozers and the backhoes working on the site are causing the vibration, not just the truck traffic on the street. Hartman said Columbia Heights approved the original project and the original number of truckloads. Due to the barrow pit, fewer truckloads go through Columbia Heights. Now Columbia Heights is asking that the project be spread over two years, but should have no bearing on the New Brighton Planning Commission’s decision. Jerry Reisen, of Veit Company, stated it has been suggested there may be economic savings and would benefit the contractor. Veit bid the project based upon being allowed use of the site when material was available. If Veit is not allowed to do this, the price of the work increases and would be passed on to taxpayers of Minneapolis. Kramer said that he did not want to be argumentative, but he differed with some statements made tonight. Schopf asked Teague if the New Brighton Engineering Department could give us some input on the noise and vibration issue. Teague said he would check with the City Engineer, but did not know if Mr. Proper is an expert on the subject. Schiferl asked about the days and hours of the hauling. Kramer responded it is Monday through Saturday. Schopf said the project engineer stated in a letter the work hours would be 7:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., but did not specify the days of the week. I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1998\08-18-98.WPD 8