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work for just a portion of the development. The development concepts are less dense than what was <br />earlier proposed and would be less financially attractive than the Rottlund/Sherman proposal. Council <br />could decide to wait and see when the residential market turns around or build out with a different plan. <br />Larson added that there is also a proposal similar to Main Street Condominiums, which was constructed <br />as rental and later converted to condominiums. The proposal would be for 40 high-end units that would <br />eventually be converted to condos at a later date, and the building would be built to the higher standards <br />required for condos. Fernelius added that the total rental units for the development would be 200-300 at <br />most, with some being senior rentals or townhome rentals. Lotter added the units would rent for $1500- <br />3000 per month. <br />Benke suggested that people still want the executive townhomes. Sculthorp suggested that if the <br />development were just the executive townhomes the project would be over $50 million in the hole. Black <br />replied that the whole development could not be tilled with the executive townhomes, since the view of <br />the park is part of the reason so many people are interested in them. He added that their significantly <br />higher price range makes up for the lower density in that area. The area would take five to seven years to <br />completely develop; the Council needs to decide whether they want to wait for the market to turn around <br />or decide on a different type of development that could be built sooner. Sculthorp suggested that the <br />density must be significantly greater than what is being proposed to make this development financial <br />workable. He asked when the taxpayers are going to be told that they would need to pay for this <br />development. Larson replied that the Council has not talked to the taxpayers because nothing is required <br />of them; the bond payments are covered through 2010. Black added the sources -and -uses sheet is over <br />the next twenty-five years and while it does show that the development is short $5 million there is <br />capitalized interest built into the bond issues to help cover the expense in the early years. Flahave asked <br />when the debt reduction on the bonds would start. Black replied that there are some bond payments that <br />are due in 2010, which would be paid for by tax increments. Flahave asked whether the reserves are there <br />to handle those payments. Fernelius replied that there are reserves in place to make those payments. <br />Black added that there were bonds issued to also help handle those payments. He added that staff shares <br />the concerns about the "worst case" scenarios that residents may have. Staff has been talking with other <br />developers, trying to understand the new reality, and to find the best project for the development. There <br />may be an investment on part of the City at the end of the development, which means the dollars the City <br />has invested through its development fund would not be recovered. <br />Nelson asked how much work Belair got done before the weather turned cold. Fernelius replied that they <br />were able to get some of the demolition done. Black added that they were also able to do some of the <br />well abatements also. Nelson asked if there were any surprises found on the site. Black replied that pipes <br />from the old refinery, with liquid still in them, were found. Larson added that the City would be <br />contacting Ashland Oil to help pay for their removal. Black noted that the pipes were found on the north <br />park property, and the original thought was leave the pipes since the park would not be developed, <br />however the PCA wants them removed. <br />Lotter reported that the PCA is requiring groundwater monitoring wells around the refinery site to test for <br />TCE, which has been found in Long Lake Park. The first tests have shown that WE is not coming from <br />that site, but they have found diesel and other organics, which is why the PCA has increasing concerns <br />about what is being left on the site. <br />Nelson asked how the Parks Steering Committee could be planning for parks, since the development is a <br />state of flux. Black replied three of the four parks are in areas that require ponding and thus those <br />Page 2 of 4 <br />