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The Commission continued the item so Mattila, who is absent, can present his update. There was a brief <br />discussion on the schedule outlined in Mattila’s memo. Baker suggested setting up the optional meeting to be <br />used if the subject is not completely covered during the regular Planning Commission meeting. <br /> <br />Realignment of Brighton Village Drive Aisles for Drive-Thru <br />Kraus-Anderson/ Snyders <br />Teague reviewed the memo relating to the concept review of the proposed realignment of the driveways in the <br />Brighton Village parking lot southwest of the Snyders building to allow for a drive-thru window on the <br />Snyder’s building. <br /> <br />Zisla stated he did not understand the public policy advantage of encouraging drive-through operations. Zisla <br />said he saw absolutely no advantage to be gained from this request. The Brighton Village parking lot is a <br />disaster now. Baker replied the Snyder’s’ area of the parking lot is okay. Zisla said the whole parking lot was <br />inconvenient. <br /> <br />Gregori said that, when the Rice Creek Center is redeveloped, Snyder’s will probably ask for a drive-through <br />at that location. The map included with the memo shows a 12-foot curve between the building and the curb in <br />the lane toward the canopy. Is that enough room for a car to turn in? <br /> <br />O’Brien said he was concerned about turning room also. There may be enough room for most drivers, but not <br />all drivers can do this maneuver and may run into the building. Livingston asked about moving the drive- <br />through to the back of the building. Teague responded that may be an option. <br /> <br />Zisla stated the plans for the center may be consistent with comments made earlier about livable <br />communities. Brighton Village is a place where you often meet your neighbors and stop to visit. Zisla said <br />that community atmosphere was the reason he is against drive-through windows. Destroying the sense of <br />community that comes from interaction between neighbors would be unfortunate. <br /> <br />Teague said the code required stacking for six cars for a drive-through window. The code was probably <br />written to deal with fast food restaurants. The window at Snyder’s would not handle the volume of a fast food <br />place. However, that is the code. <br /> <br />O’Brien asked if Snyder’s was going to ask for exemption from that requirement. Teague responded Snyder’s <br />did not provide a plan. There may be room for six cars, but it will be close. They may have to ask for an <br />exemption from the code. <br /> <br />Locke stated this item is simply a discussion item to get the Commission’s opinions. Locke said he agreed <br />that, in light of the earlier discussion on less dependence on cars, drive-throughs are created for the <br />convenience of drivers. The question is how much does our ordinance allow us to restrict these drive-throughs <br />if they meet the ordinance standards. If they have to apply for a variance, the Commission would have a good <br />deal of discretion whether this is a good idea or not. <br /> <br />Baker said the need for a drive-through was a business decision. Snyder’s may feel they need the drive- <br />through. The Commission’s decision must be based on the code. Baker stated he was concerned about the <br />twelve-foot aisle. O’Brien asked about moving the aisle to the southwest. Teague responded that the slope <br />and cutting into the hill is the constraint. <br />Schiferl said he was concerned about the narrowness of the site. Schiferl said he did not like drive-throughs <br />because of the dependence on cars, but also because of the emissions. <br /> <br /> <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1998\02-17-98.WPD <br />6 <br /> <br />
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