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easement is not used, we feel the addition of the 22 underground stalls for visitors would take care of any <br />potential parking problems. <br /> <br />Steve Larson stated Rice Creek Road has been posted no parking, but he still sees people parking in front of <br />Brightondale. Is there something to warn visitors when they enter the building that they can be ticketed if they <br />have parked on Rice Creek Road? Gould was unaware of such a sign. Larson said Rice Creek Road has been <br />posted for over two weeks and people have been parking there consistently. Gould said he would speak to the <br />manager tomorrow to post such a warning. Larson said that should be done or the City will have to start <br />writing tickets. <br /> <br />Schiferl asked for clarification regarding the pond on the northeast corner of the park. If you compare what’s <br />happening now and what would happen with this development, would there be more water or less water in the <br />dry pond area? <br /> <br />Chet Harrison, Clark Engineering, answered that, when you run computations over a drainage basin, the <br />impact on the park ponding is minimal. We think we are reducing the 100-year flood elevation in the park by <br />perhaps 6 inches. That has to do with the fact we are ponding water here where there was no pond before. <br />This water just ran into the park. The water did not go through the pipe; it went to the park along the back of <br />the curb and overflowed into the park. We are provided additional amount of storage and overall reducing the <br />site by 20 to 25 percent. Our pond is helping the situation, but it cannot help a whole lot because of the large <br />volume of water in a large storm. Harrison said they are putting a 12 inch pipe into the park. Right now all <br />the water goes into the park. <br /> <br />Schiferl stated, then, this development will not have an adverse impact. Harrison responded the development <br />would not have an adverse impact. It is reducing the flood elevation of the pond by about 6 inches. Schiferl <br />asked if that was consistent with the City Engineer’s requirements. Harrison responded affirmatively. The <br />City Engineer had an independent engineering firm review the data and we both came up with the same <br />answers. <br /> <br />Livingston asked if anyone in the audience wanted to speak on the item. <br /> <br />Ron Olson, 2026 28th Avenue NW, referred to the motion the Park Board passed. The motion indicates that <br />the 30 parking spaces be permanently dedicated for park purposes and owners cannot park there. The motion <br />goes on to state residents must be notified, upon purchase, that the parking is dedicated to the park. Olson <br />commented he would like to see it stay that way. That was the agreement by the developer and that was the <br />motion passed by the Park Board. The problem with limiting parking to certain hours is that it’s used on the <br />weekends. Secondly, is the pond a teacup or does it have an outlet? If it’s a teacup, it would overflow across <br />the park in the event of a large storm. In previous discussions, it was stated the pond would have an outlet <br />pipe and water would be siphoned off and not just overflow when it was full. Thirdly, it was indicated at the <br />March meeting, that the developer had to have the fire lane contained on his own property and not expect <br />other people to provide it for him. Now, the fire lane will be on the park. When the fire lane would not fit any <br />other place, now the City is providing the space for the fire lane in the park. In exchange, the City is getting a <br />path with the gridlocked block along the side. The Fire Marshal talked to us about the fire lane and said the <br />problem with the grid-locked block system is that it is not plowed in the winter. Therefore, the fire lane is not <br />usable very many months of the year. In fact, they have that located behind Brightondale now and it is never <br />plowed. The other problem the Fire Marshal mentioned is that they have had trucks mired down in the mud. <br />Is it appropriate for the City to be providing the land for the fire lane. If that material is appropriate, the <br />question is whether it will actually do what it is intended to do. <br /> <br />Livingston asked if the developer had any comments. Harrison said he could address two of Mr. Olson’s <br />items. The pond does have an overflow pipe, which was reviewed by Mr. Proper, the City Engineer. <br />Regarding the fire lane, we did have a meeting with the Fire Marshal and he said the current path has nothing <br /> <br />10 <br />I:\COMMISSIONS\PLANNING\MINUTES\1998\04-21-98.WPD <br /> <br />
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