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I I I Council Meeting Minutes May 10, 1988 5. CONSIDERATION OF EXTENSION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN - SP-137/LP-205 (PHILADELPHIA CHURCH). 6. CONSIDERATION OF INDEMNIFICATION FOR SURVEY OF JOHNSON FILTRA- TION SYSTEMS'S PROPERTY. 5 Ayes- 0 Nayes. Motion Carried Council Business Proper briefly reviewed four-way stop signs at the intersection. staff report concerning a request for Eighth Street N.W./11th Avenue N.W. Benke asked Kelley if he concurred with the recommendation; Kelley very strongly indicated agreement, and stated his staff believes this is neither a "bad" intersection nor that there is anything exceptional about it. Henry Putnam, 948 - 11th Avenue N.W., indicated the speed of cars was not checked during rush hour; few drivers bring their car to a complete stop on 11th (those that do have to inch their way onto Eighth); and there is a slight curve in the road so they have a difficult time getting onto Eighth Street, especially when the sun is setting. Benke indicated peak hour problems seem to be more severe than other times of the day; however, we do not want to install traffic control devices unless they serve a 24-hour period. Benke agreed withstaff's recommendation to deny the petition, but asked that the intersection be monitored during rush hour. Proper expressed concern about the accident potential a four-way stop might create: Eighth Street is a main street and people are used to traveling it; and, if four-way stop signs are installed in what doesn't seem like an appropriate location, the sign might be run and a more serious condition is prevalent because those on 11th Avenue will not be as defensive. Proper felt the seriousness of an accident at this specific intersection would also be in- creased. Benke indicated there are studies that show the rate of accidents can increase when a traffic signal is installed (which one would think would be the most safe traffic control device); and asked Kelley to see if his department could control what is there rather than, perhaps, creating problems. Resident would like to see the police on the west side of 11th Avenue on Eighth Street more often during the rush hour or during the ev~ning. Page 2 SP-137/LP205 Philadelphia Ch. Report 88-141 Johnson Filtration Systems/Idemnifica- tion Report 88-142 Council Business 4-Way Stop/11th Ave- 8th St. Report 88-143