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I I I Council Meeting Minutes December 12, 1989 Page 5 Council Business, continued Benke feels, at this time, the penalty provision should not be added to the ordinance until further investigation is done by staff. Larson feels an ordinance which does not include a penalty provision would send "mixed signals" to youths. Larson asked if the police foresee any difficulties in the enforcement of a penalty provision. Brandt noted that several City ordinances include some type of penalty and feels there should be consequences to actions which break the law or violate an ordinance. Wi 11 i ams asked Ke 11 ey if the pen a lty woul d be enforceable and effecti ve. Ke 11 ey recommends the penalty be a petty mi sdemeanor with a fi ne up to $100. Ke 11 ey acknowl edged the di ffi culti es associated with enforcing the penalty, primarily suspect identification. Gunderman feels the ordinance needs to have "some meat to it" in order to be effective. Gunderman suggested staff to further research adding a penalty provision to the ordinance. Brandt feels a survey of other cities with similar ordinances needs to be conducted to find out their experiences and problems associ ated with enforcement of the ord i nances. Brandt noted that most ordinances are not under surveillance all the time, but if a problem exists, additional policing of a situation may be needed. Mot i on by Benke, seconded by Brandt, to WAIVE THE READING AND AUTHORIZE THE PUBLICATION OF AN ORDINANCE ADDING SECTION 15-63 TO THE CITY CODE RELATING TO THE SALE OF CIGARETTES AND REQUEST STAFF TO CONTINUE RESEARCH ON THE PENALTY PROPOSAL. 5 Ayes - 0 Nayes, Motion Carried Announcements and Updates The Ramsey County Charter Commission's formal recommendations were recentl y presented to the Ramsey County Board. The Charter is scheduled to appear on the November, 1990, ballot. Counc il Bus i ness Sale of Cigarettes to Minors Ordinance Report 89-296 Announcements & Upd~t~s Ramsey County Charter The Ramsey County League of Local Governments wi 11 hold thei r RCLLG Chri stmas Party Christmas party on December 20th at the Lido Cafe. Williams requested staff to present a progress report on the Dog and Dog & Cat Ordinance Cat Ordinance proposal.